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Post by pcm on Jan 5, 2011 11:44:38 GMT -5
Hi, I am thinking about making cocoa powder and cocoa butter to expand my nonexistent fantasy product line. I was thinking of getting one of those mexican style grinders and either building or buying a cocoa press. I have a few questions: 1-Does anyone know how much I might expect to pay for one of those red grinders in the video below? 2- what is it called? 3-If I grind the cocoa first, would the time saved in my fantasy Grindeur be significant in terms of conch time and energy used? 4-Should I bomb down to Mexico and search for a grinder or try to order one from here? 5-would the same people who sell the grinder also sell presses? : www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXYs8fKHEd8Thanks for any input. This is fun.
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Post by pcm on Jan 6, 2011 15:56:28 GMT -5
It is called a stone grinder and it looks like this. Any ideas about how I might get one or how much they cost? thank you. I hope you tell me I have to go to Mexico. Attachments:
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Post by eanbean on Jan 6, 2011 18:19:25 GMT -5
I went to Oaxaca, Mexico to check them out.
The problem that I found is the stone portion of the mill. You loose a lot of it in the processing and I'm not certain how you get around FDA and other regulations in the US with this issue. Not only the potential stone in the chocolate but the materials of the machine, the fact that it's painted, etc. It also requires a lot of dressing the stones, getting them just right. How do you go about working with the stone, how do you fix it when things go wrong/break/etc.?
I would be curious to hear from others on this and see how people have addressed these issues.
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Post by pcm on Jan 10, 2011 11:50:32 GMT -5
When you say you loose a lot of "it" in the processing, are you talking about the stone from the grinder or the chocolate liquor?
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Post by oaxacalote on Jan 10, 2011 19:45:26 GMT -5
Taza touts their chocolate as stone-ground using vintage equipment, so perhaps you'll find some hints in what they're doing.
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Post by eanbean on Jan 10, 2011 21:53:42 GMT -5
I agree with oaxacalote (great name, by the way). Taza would be the one who knows.
The stone wheels grind down when processing and that stone has to go somewhere. There seems to be a lot of work on the stone wheels and they show a lot of ware.
Let us know what you find out please.
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Post by solis on Feb 21, 2011 17:59:56 GMT -5
I have 3 of these molinos from Oaxaca, Mexico that I bought about 9 years ago and I am just about to set them up!! 2 are for making Mexican chocolate mass and one for making mole. I did not bring up the motors for some dumb reason and I am now having to find them here in the US. Shaft size, rpm's and voltage is all different, as is current. As for the stones, I will have to learn how to hone the stones to keep them tight. I bought extra stones and when all wear out, I will have to go to Mexico to get more, not a problem, I love Mexico. They were a big hassle to ship to Juarez and then drive them across. lots of paper work. With the terrible drug cartel problem, I would not do it now. And you do not want to be on those highways. There might be a way to have them shipped direct from Oaxaca or Puebla to El Paso, but your Spanish better be good... Oh, it takes 3 men to move one.
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