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Post by nuage9 on Aug 6, 2023 23:34:26 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I just bought a Premier Wonder Refiner/Melanger and frankly the seller seemed a bit dodgy (issues with postage etc). Now I got the box and it says "Premier Wonder Wet Grinder" on the label. And there's no mention of chocolate making on the box... Please someone tell me all these refiners say wet grinder on the box and i didn't get sent the wrong thing? I also attached an image. Update: seller says there's two versions of these one with weaker and one with stronger motor... but they both say wet grinder. Again, not thoroughly convinced. Cheers! Attachments:
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Post by Ben on Aug 7, 2023 13:12:21 GMT -5
There are several Premier grinders available. Two that are intended for chocolate and two that aren't. The small blue one, which you have, is not intended for chocolate. That being said, many of us used those to make chocolate before the red one came out. The small red one looks the same as the one you have, but the plastic piece in the middle is red and has some upgraded parts to stand up to chocolate use--bearings, etc.--the most important of which is a temperature-controlled shutoff mechanism. There have been a couple fires caused by the blue one overheating when being used for chocolate. I would recommend returning this one and getting the red one direct from Diamond Custom Machines at www.melangers.com/There are also slightly larger, tilting versions of both the chocolate and non-chocolate grinders.
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Post by nuage9 on Aug 7, 2023 15:52:45 GMT -5
Thanks so much Ben! I’ll order the red one from the website you recommended. I might go with the stainless steel option too, the plastics in the blue one seem very cheap and smell bad.
I made a big stink about this to the seller (he had reassured me this was appropriate for chocolate) and I ended up getting a refund for the purchase. He said i can keep the machine. Is there any use to the blue one at all? If not for chocolate making, something else?
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Post by Ben on Aug 8, 2023 7:45:50 GMT -5
I'm glad I could help! The blue one is a great little grinder. It's capable of grinding chocolate, but just not intended for it and the warranty won't cover it. I've used one to grind various nut butters, coconut butter, and cookie butter.
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Post by nuage9 on Aug 9, 2023 3:51:16 GMT -5
Thanks Ben! I’ve got almonds in there grinding as we speak Pretty keen to see the results. Cookie butter sounds amazing!! Do you happen to have a recipe for it?
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Post by Ben on Aug 9, 2023 8:11:57 GMT -5
My cookie butter recipe is basically 1 part cookies, 0.8 part refined coconut oil, 0.15 part sunflower oil (although this could be any liquid oil). You can use biscoff cookies off the shelf for the traditional speculoos cookie butter, but I think any cookie should more or less work, although you'd want to get rid of any fillings if any. I bake my own cookies for mine.
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Post by nuage9 on Aug 9, 2023 15:37:02 GMT -5
Thanks Ben! I’m definitely going to try it!
Do they have to be particularly dry cookies? (No moisturize to seize the mixture?)
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Post by nuage9 on Aug 9, 2023 15:43:20 GMT -5
Btw do you have any tips for cleaning this machine after use? It was so hard to clean it after making almond butter last night. It’s so heavy and has too many nooks and crannies.
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Post by Ben on Aug 9, 2023 15:43:36 GMT -5
I'm not sure about that. I've never attempted making cookie butter from a moist cookie. Worst case, just dry them out in the oven before grinding.
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Post by Thomas on Aug 10, 2023 10:29:16 GMT -5
Btw do you have any tips for cleaning this machine after use? It was so hard to clean it after making almond butter last night. It’s so heavy and has too many nooks and crannies. Always remove the wheels for cleaning. I don't know about making almond butter, but the chocolate will seep into the wheel axles and the only way to clean it is by removing the wheels. Otherwise, it will build it and cause the wheels to stop turning at some point. I use very hot water, a brush, and dish soap. I will also just fill up the bowl with hot soapy water and let it soak with the wheels in the bowl. I have a very small bottle brush that I use to clean out the wheel holes too. The spray attachment on my faucet helps as well. Hope this helps, Thomas
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Post by Ben on Aug 10, 2023 10:56:53 GMT -5
Also, while the bowl and stones are not dishwasher-safe, I believe the center piece that holds the wheels and scrapers is. Check your manual before quoting me on that, though.
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Post by nuage9 on Aug 10, 2023 18:00:07 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the tips!
The nut butter was a bit of a challenge to get out even after soaking and scrubbing. With my Vitamix i sometimes fill the bowl with a bit of water and run it to dislodge the bits and pieces that are stuck and water down any sticky sauces, nut butters etc.
Would filling the grinder with some water or vegetable oil and letting it run for a bit help to loosen up and water down the sticky nut butter mixture do you guys think?
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Post by Ben on Aug 11, 2023 13:41:20 GMT -5
Yep, I'll run it with a bit of hot water to help with cleaning. Some of the bigger grinders that don't have removable bowls recommend cleaning the machine that way.
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