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Post by ryan on Oct 19, 2017 22:01:53 GMT -5
What kind of paper do you use for your wrappers? The type of wrappers that kind of act as an envelope for your chocolate so you fold the paper around bar. I have my design ready but the printer asked what kind of paper I had in my mind and I'm not really sure what would be flexible yet thick enough. Thank you!
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Post by chocojake on Dec 5, 2017 9:33:44 GMT -5
I have found that at least 32 weight paper works best, but I've decided to go the foil and box route after lots of experimenting with wrappers.
- Jake L.
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Post by mark on Dec 5, 2017 19:38:12 GMT -5
We use 180 gsm paper. Thick enough to not feel flimsy and thin enough to fold well.
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Post by New to chocolate making on Apr 21, 2018 16:33:24 GMT -5
Does anyone have a suggestion on where to get my wrappers from. I want to use boxes for the outside and foil, lined paper for the inside, and also have my design printed on them.
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Post by Thomas on Apr 22, 2018 13:05:33 GMT -5
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Post by Ben on Apr 23, 2018 7:26:11 GMT -5
For boxes, you'll probably have to contact a bunch of different box providers, get quotes, etc. There may be some suggestions in other threads here in these forums or over at thechocolatelife.com (make sure to search the archive site, too). One thing with custom printed boxes is that you'll generally need to order a lot of them to get the per-piece cost down. Another option is to produce them yourself. For a couple years, I printed and cut my own packaging using a laser printer, a custom die, and a hand-cranked crafters die-cutting machine. I rigged up a decking drill to turn the crank. It worked really well, and I know of another chocolate maker who has adopted this process, too. The machine I used is the Accucut GrandeMARK 2: accucut.com/collections/machines/products/grandemark-2-die-cutting-machineAccucut also produces custom dies: accucut.com/pages/custom-diesI had two dies made, so using their largest tray, I could cut two wrappers at a time. It's not the fastest or most enjoyable process, but for relatively low volume--up to a few thousand boxes a month--it worked well. It could definitely be improved by using a quieter motor and having two people working at a time--one to load and feed the dies into the machine and one to unload.
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Post by fernando on Jun 8, 2021 22:00:01 GMT -5
For boxes, you'll probably have to contact a bunch of different box providers, get quotes, etc. There may be some suggestions in other threads here in these forums or over at thechocolatelife.com (make sure to search the archive site, too). One thing with custom printed boxes is that you'll generally need to order a lot of them to get the per-piece cost down. Another option is to produce them yourself. For a couple years, I printed and cut my own packaging using a laser printer, a custom die, and a hand-cranked crafters die-cutting machine. I rigged up a decking drill to turn the crank. It worked really well, and I know of another chocolate maker who has adopted this process, too. The machine I used is the Accucut GrandeMARK 2: accucut.com/collections/machines/products/grandemark-2-die-cutting-machineAccucut also produces custom dies: accucut.com/pages/custom-diesI had two dies made, so using their largest tray, I could cut two wrappers at a time. It's not the fastest or most enjoyable process, but for relatively low volume--up to a few thousand boxes a month--it worked well. It could definitely be improved by using a quieter motor and having two people working at a time--one to load and feed the dies into the machine and one to unload. I checked the Accucut and looks like the right fit for my small scale production. What kind of paper stock did you use for your boxes and where could I buy it, also what kind of laser printer did you use? I own an Epson printer but it’s inkjet. Thanks!
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Post by Ben on Jun 9, 2021 8:17:47 GMT -5
I used a thick card stock/cover stock. I think I bought it from papermart.com. You'll probably want to test out a bunch of samples to decide which you want to use and what works best for your box design.
The printer was just a standard HP office laser printer. I think it's been discontinued since then, but any printer that prints the quality you're looking for will do.
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Post by mark on Jun 10, 2021 4:17:35 GMT -5
Wow that sounds like a cool setup you had running there Ben!
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Post by Ben on Jun 10, 2021 7:00:28 GMT -5
It was a lot of work, but not too bad for relatively low quantities. I wish I could have found a more automated small-scale solution, but everything I found was way way out of my price range. For example, I thought the machine in the video linked below looked like it would work, so I reached out to them and got a quote. It was $30,000! www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS4v_mUKH88
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Post by mark on Jun 11, 2021 8:18:06 GMT -5
Yes, a lot of that machinery is not worth investing in if you can find a good print shop nearby that has appropriate equipment in house. We printed many thousands of labels on an inkjet and cut them on a manual guillotine. I don’t regret doing that, worked up to a certain scale and gave us excellent flexibility of course.
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Post by Kateye on Oct 26, 2022 14:32:47 GMT -5
Hello! I'm hoping there's been some more resources since a year ago. My packaging will change to personalize with each client so 200 at a time. Any new packaging ideas?
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Post by Ben on Oct 27, 2022 14:41:22 GMT -5
Will you be changing just the printed design or the dimensions of the packaging?
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Post by Kateye on Jan 12, 2023 15:21:49 GMT -5
Hi Ben. I need to change my notifications. But yes, Same package. Different graphics/text.
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Post by Ben on Jan 13, 2023 8:37:52 GMT -5
At that scale, printing in house probably makes the most sense. That's pretty easy to do if you're just doing sleeves on a foil-wrapped bar or similar. You may be able to find a reasonable price from a local printer to do digital printing, but that's basically just laser printing.
If you're doing die-cut packaging, I haven't seen anything better than the accucut machine since then at any reasonable price point.
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